The goal of is to provide a supportive community for teachers and to inform and engage in discourse with educational stakeholders about the teaching profession. I am planning to apply to University of Phoenix or National University to obtain my teaching credential with my masters of arts in education. I know that going for any degree online is quite shady and considered lesser than if obtained at a traditional university, but this is my only viable option because these are the only universities that will accept me. Trust me on this. Would getting my teaching credentials online affect my job placement? A teacher friend of mine told me that when applying for teaching jobs, no one really cares where you went to study so long as you have your credentials. Has anyone completed a teaching credential online at either of these institutions.
I am looking to be a certified teacher in California if that matters.Edit#1: I should probably add that the reason I'm considering these two universities is because my GPA during undergrad was too low for most teaching credential programs. So the reason I am choosing UoP or National is because they put applicants who do not meet typical GPA requirements on a probationary period where they are given the chance to prove themselves. If they maintain a decent GPA in the first few classes they are allowed to stay. If I could go to a traditional school I definitely would because I too believe that anything other than an online school would be better. But it just doesn't seem like I have that option. If anyone knows of any teaching credential programs that have some kind of work around to this GPA thing I'm all ears.Edit#2: University of Phoenix is cheaper (24k) and is a 37 unit program. National University's program is approx 60 units and runs at a cost of 34k.
Both programs take approx 19 months. When school districts are deciding your pay scale some of the ones here in California will move you to a higher tier depending on units earned AFTER your bachelors degree. For instance if you have a BA + 30 units your raises will be less than if you had 60 units. Do those units have to be education related or could they be units from any institution, such as if I took chinese or p.e at a local community college?.
You should first look into whether your state will accept credit from an online university for your teaching certificate. If they won't, you shouldn't be too scared to go to a traditional school.
My grad school wouldn't let anybody matriculate until they had completed a certain number of courses. You may be able to find a school near you that will let you take a couple of classes to prove yourself to them. Look into that. I had an undergraduate GPA of 2.86, but finished grad school with a 3.98. Don't give up hope on yourself. OP, read this and understand.
A degree from UoP is not taken seriously in our profession.Go to community college and get some classes under your belt. When I first went to college at 18 I basically failed out. I was able to go back to community college and prove myself before I transferred to a four year school.Also, we had a student teacher who was getting a degree from UoP at a school I used to work at. Her supervisor showed up only one time during her entire time with us.
She had serious regrets even before graduating. If you have to pick one of those online schools, I'd go with Phoenix which is at least well-known and recognizable.
I'd be curious if those programs would have you spend time in the classroom. The online schools don't have links and contacts in local schools like regional colleges have.There are several small private colleges around me (delaware) with open enrollment for teaching programs.There's none around you? You don't have to go to Standford or UCLA.
Lots of colleges cater to working teachers and are generally respected even though they are open enrollment. I was researching University of Phoenix for a while for their elementary education Bachelors. They do teach based on that state's certification requirements. If you have to have so many hours of classroom observation, they make you do it. They also require a semester of student teaching. I would of preferred UoP because it fit my schedule and I would have been done with school sooner. But it's pricey and I was super nervous about getting a job with a degree from them.
I know many schools would pick a teacher from elsewhere and I did not want to invest in all of that for nothing. I went to UOP for my teaching credential, and I've been teaching for well over 15 years now. I've never had a problem getting a job or a teaching credential - and I've had credentials in three different states.I loved their program; I took a combination of in-person and online courses. I loved that the people teaching my courses were actual teachers, it made a huge difference when I went to actually teach.A warning though- there may be some difficulty with student teaching placements; I've heard lately that there are sometimes difficulty with placements, including long waits and miscommunications - you should be prepared to do a lot of the groundwork on your student teaching and classroom observations (it helps if you already know some educators who can help you find placements).
I teach in California, and so does my husband. We both have our credentials and masters from National University. We never had a problem.
The programs have to be state approved to get your credential, which both schools are. I personally liked the one class a month program at national.
My hubby and I were both interns while we were going to school, so we were earning out salary while going to school.However, both schools are horribly expensive. I would look into a Cal State program.
Our student loan payments suck. I have $40 grand (which is my undergrad and graduate combined) and my hubby has $60.
I started my program 11 years ago. So it was cheaper. My hubby started his 6 years ago, tuition had gone up. Unfortunately, my hubby was let go the first 3 years of teaching due to the California budget. So some of his loan money was used to pay our mortgage etc, in between districts.
We would go one to two months without his check because of the 10 month pay vs 11 month vs 12.Our payments combined are around 550 a month, but we have them stretched to 20 years so we can afford them.Was it worth it? We were both interns earning a full salaries. And the online schooling worked for our schedules. I learned a lot, but it has nothing on actual classroom experience.Internships are not as common anymore unless you are in a high need area like math or some sciences. If you are close to a near a Cal State you can same a chunk of money. I know Cal State San Bernardino has a pretty good program. I am just finishing up my Masters with National and finished my Student Teaching with them in December.
I have never had anyone at any district say I did not go to a 'real school.' The program was solid, I had a ton of support from my school, online and at my local campus. Everyone would ask where I was going to school while I was student teaching and when I said National University most of them responded with 'oh, I just got my Masters from them!' Or 'So and so went there and really liked it!' It's a real school with a respected credential program. I loved it and would recommend it to anyone. I got the Single Subject Credential in Social Studies and while they don't have 'connections' I did get a lot of support on where to look, when to look, and how best to go about looking for jobs.
The great thing is you can work while in the program, if I could go back I would have subbed when I first started the program just to get more connections established prior to student teaching but even during student teaching, I worked hard to make positive connections with the school I was at and that opened the door to subbing full time with the district.I know some people who have been hired the minute they have their credential, I know some who have subbed for three years and haven't landed a full time job yet. It's a tough market in general, you have the really love teaching and understand that it wont be instant gratification if you pick this path. But if you love it, it is so worth it. The issue isn't with online schools and programs specifically, but with for-profit schools versus not-for-profits ones. University of Phoenix is a for-profit school, and many educational institutions thus find a degree from this school suspect, or at least less desirable. (Full disclosure: I teach at a traditional university, so I am rather biased.
But I know a couple of people who 'taught' through U of Phoenix, and they were pressured to practice severe grade inflation because their students are chiefly customers, not students.) Have you looked into University of Southern New Hampshire, or online programs offered through traditional schools?.